How do you train steady to wing and shot

[mm]

I am working with a young dog now and I am wondering what are your steps to get a dog steady to wing and shot?

What problems have you had and how did you overcome them if you did?

What age was the dog when started and when Finished?

Anything else you might want to add. I am no expert and would like to learn more. I have found most books lacking in detail and they seem to gloss over steps.

[slistoe]

I would imagine that you have instilled a solid whoa into your basic obedience commands - that is the first place to start.


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[Sharon]

I'm no expert , but I'm sure some of the experts will respond and help.

"Wing and shot" are two separate skills taught separately with months between imo.
I never started until the dog was at least 8 months old.
Then I planted pigeons( got them at small animal auctions.) had the dog on the leash and taught, :We don't chase".
When starting "the shot" I made sure sure the dog was far off and very gradually moved the shot closer to the dog.

(Sorry for the 3 pics. Couldn't delete them.)

[mask]

I like carded pigeons and later a helper. I teach steady to wing first. I don't take any outside dogs in anymore. I do help a friend or old customer on occasion.

[Idylwyld]

I like carded pigeons and later a helper. I teach steady to wing first.

Just a guess, Dave walker had an influence you. Being from Idaho.

My influences were Bill West and Bill Gibbons in Arizona.

[mask]

Yep . Always more than one way to skin a cat. There is no substitute for consistent 5 day a week training .

[Idylwyld]

Yep . Always more than one way to skin a cat. There is no substitute for consistent 5 day a week training .

That method is the only way I skin the cat. I guess I'm a groupie. Couldn't train for a living when I retired out of the military. I wasnted too but economic reality reared its ugly head. Just Not enough volume in NM. I keep a real job and train on the side.

[slistoe]

Yep . Always more than one way to skin a cat.

Yup. Why I bet you could even go with stop to flush as a starting point and then go to steady to wing.

[Idylwyld]

Yep . Always more than one way to skin a cat.

Yup. Why I bet you could even go with stop to flush as a starting point and then go to steady to wing.

Thats quite literally the way I do it.

[Jetrain]

The Burnt Creek Method of Dog Training by Jim Marti is available from Burnt Creek Press (website online). It's the best training workbook available.

Good hunting!

[Idylwyld]

The Burnt Creek Method of Dog Training by Jim Marti

Has Jim passed?

[slistoe]

The Burnt Creek Method of Dog Training by Jim Marti

Has Jim passed?

Yes.
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/bi ... d=51886818